“Do you want them or not?”
This was the nurse talking to the patient next to me earlier this morning. Her words struck me as about the most cruel thing I had heard anyone say in a very long time. To be fair, I wasn’t privy to the whole story, and the occasional dose of percoset could not have done much to improve my own perception of events happening on the other side of a curtain. Still, I think I took in enough of what was going on to understand the poor sobbing man who had to answer this question.
My own stay at the hospital was rather uneventful. Three minor procedures and an overnight stay. It was painful, but hardly beyond my own (less than impressive) tolerance levels. I found the staff pleasant and helpful. The story of my brief encounter with the medical world this weekend has thus far been a rather boring story of a plan coming together nicely. The drama last night was unfolded just beyond the curtain beside me.
The patient showed up well into the evening, obviously in great distress. I could hear the man explain that he had walked out of another hospital because they wouldn’t give him enough pain killers. He didn’t seem to be capable of repeating that move again. Shortly after being left to his own devices, the man began to vomit. He seemed to vomit until he had nothing left, and he just kept on going.
…all night.
Granted, there were moments of respite, but they were few and far in between. I could hardly imagine the pain he must have experienced, but listening to him cry just like a child was enough to drive the point home for me. The physical suffering of the patient next to me was but the kicker for the real story. Over the course of the evening, the staff slowly seemed to disengage themselves from the struggle to control his pain, replacing the effort to help him with explanations for their own inability to do so. The response time for his requests grew longer and longer over the course of the evening. At least one time I could hear people joking and laughing just outside the door as his bell rang, and the man struggled to expel whatever it was that wanted out of his belly so badly.
Was I missing something? Perhaps the staff believed him to be a problem patient of sorts, contributing to his own misery in one way or another, or perhaps they simply felt they were unable to help him. Either way, their increasing reluctance to try seemed to grow more obvious over the course of the night. I suppose it would make sense in that perverse way that the human mind actually seems to work that a nurse unable to help a patient in any substantive manner would withdraw from him emotionally, but this seemed to be an exceptionally striking loss of compassion. By morning, it seemed the staff could hardly pretend to care anymore just what happened to this patient.
One particularly sad chapter in the drama came when my neighbor asked for pain medication. He was given a pill and some water, all of which stayed down less than a few minutes. As the patient pointed out that his pain medication was now in the bucket, the hospital staff argued that some of it must be making its way into his system. How much was in the bucket and how much was in his system, no-one could tell, and that unanswered question had serious consequences. The man continued to complain of pain all night, and having given him pain medications, the staff explained that they could not risk giving him anything more. Despite any evidence to the contrary, they had to assume the medication they had given him was still in his system. He would simply have to tough it out.
At some point in the evening, I heard somebody take them man into the bathroom where they left him. About ten minutes later I heard a crash. Do, I know that he fell? Not quite. Something else could have gone wrong, but I continue to believe that is what I heard. By this point in the evening, I was getting a slow response to my own requests for help. Perhaps the staff was just that busy, and perhaps my own efforts to get help for the neighbor had earned me too a skeptical ear. Either way, no-one came to help for several minutes as I pressed buttons and talked into speakers. The man begged me to find him some help. Finally, I decided to get up and make for the hallway.
Someone finally entered the room as I grunted and groaned my way out of bed. After asking them to help my neighbor I was told he was just lying on the floor. It was only after I insisted several times that he had fallen, and after I added that I had heard a crash, that anyone turned their attention to him. After sometime they got him back into his bed and listened as he added a very sore shoulder to his list of complaints. Convinced that it had popped out of place, my neighbor asked for help pushing it back into its socket. This request was of course denied, and rightly so, I imagine, but I couldn’t help thinking that to this person it was just one more refusal to help him.
Things were relatively quiet for awhile after that. When asked, the man always said he was in pain. Finally, someone brought him a couple pain pills and a glass of water. The man patiently explained that he would vomit them back up just as they had the first time. His nurse interrupted with terse question; “Do you want them or not?”
After a long silence, I could hear the man taking the pills. It had to be a difficult decision. The previous botched attempt at such medication was the very reason he spent the night in so much pain, and now this was the only option the nurse could (or would) offer him. She left immediately after giving him the pills, and the room fell silent. As it happens, he did keep this batch down, and things were okay for awhile (less than an hour). Who knows, maybe there was a trace of wisdom in her cruelty.
I keep thinking about this, wondering how accurate my sense of the events may be, what details may fill the gaps in my own sense of the story, and just how much I should be angry over the story unfolding beside me. If I’ve gauged the bathroom incident correctly, then I think that argues for an angry-as-hell verdict, but I am on very uncertain ground there. Most of the story takes place in more grey areas, a patient in great pain, and staff well beyond their ability to help him. I wonder if people may have overlooked some options that were available to them all along, but I don’t know what those would be. Perhaps there are lessons here about the way bureaucracies allocate authority for decisions and the way people deal with those policies in real life. Far more likely, I suspect there is a lesson here about the way that people respond to their own limitations, and the short trip from inability to help to utter lack of compassion. These weren’t uncaring people, at least I don’t believe they were, but by the end of the evening you’d have been hard-pressed to see it in their actions toward that patient.
Ah well, I now have a date with some percoset.
…which I am apparently unable to spell.
My thoughts…perhaps he was having withdrawl?
Perhaps this is what the employees heard, having been given training to spot drug seeking behavior–making them more or less blind to real and attached thought?
The entire situation sounds stressful to and for all.
Staff at hospital, when I had the children, put me into a breathing emergency, not understanding COPD nor asthma, telling me that they could not would not give me my breathing treatment nor inhalers. I was also told that I could not bring my own boxes of four meds that I took on a daily basis just to live. Apparently, they also didn’t understand what happens to a patient taking steroid, when such medication is abruptly stopped. Hey, I’m alive to tell about it!
Wish you well. I have been fretting a bit over your betterment.
Your take makes a lot of sense to me. I imagine the guy’s story about the previous hospital might have been a big red flag pointing in exactly that direction.
Your own experience sounds like the tip of a terrible iceberg. I am continually amazed at people’s willingness to follow policy in the face of dire consequences. I’m sorry you had to go through that.
You are very sweet to be concerned about me. I am essentially fine. All my procedures went off as planned. I’m in pain, but no more than expected, and I have the drugs to deal with it. …I’m a little bugged that the last pill hasn’t put me to sleep, but that’ll change in due time.
You have a wonderful day.
I will listen to Sea by Peter Kater for you. Perhaps that will soothe and send you drifting.
That sounds like a good plan.
Goodnight Elisa.
Very good post. There might be another story here, Daniel. The budget cuts to hospitals, partly due to reductions in insurance payments from both private and government carriers, have caused a corresponding reduction in staffing, limits to the salaries paid to hospital staff, and increased workloads. Some of the staff doubtless feel badly treated and under-appreciated by the people who employ them. This may then trickle down to the people they care for. I am not trying to justify callous behavior, but suggest a possible and partial explanation of some of it.
That’s an interesting take, and I do wonder. As an extension, I wonder if budget cuts may have increased the likelihood that genuine help wasn’t available that night. It really just seems like he was left to suffer until the docs showed up, but I can’t help wondering whether or not someone with a little more authority could have done more and/or if his condition might have warranted more immediate action.
Either way, I can’t imagine that cuts and increased workloads improve the attitude of those working in hospitals. Misery loves company, even if it has to create it.
Usually, there is something unseen in stories like this. I am not saying all hospitals and hospital staff are perfect, but my daughter is a nurse. She currently works in neonatal ICU, but used to work in a psych hospital. She has incredible stories to tell: moms who have kids taken away because they won’t quit using cocaine, violent people who have throw feces at her among other things, people addicted to being sick and the attention it brings, and individuals who would rather take a pill than even try the other options available to them because they take effort.
There is a lot that I didn’t see, and the notion that he may have been reveling in his illness did occur to me. How to tell if he was, or even if that guided the actions of the staff, I am not sure. I do think that leaving him alone in the bathroom was beyond the pale. Whether that placed him in genuine danger or simply provided a pretext, it was a bad move on the part of the staff.
I wouldn’t be able to handle the sound of the other patient vomiting all night!! I hope you get well fast!!!
heh, …it does seem to have dominated my own thoughts about the whole experience. All in all, I would say the sound of this man retching and crying all night made significantly more of an impression than my own aches and pains.
My mom was an RN, actually the head nurse for a time and I KNOW she would have flipped out if a patient had been treated like that. How horrible to be in pain and experience no compassion from the very people who are supposed to care.
It’s a shame she wasn’t there, but I seriously wonder what the people who were there would have thought if they had seen themselves at some other time. Their attitude struck me as the sort of mentality people talk themselves into, only to regret when they have time to think about it.
Nurse burn out, lack of empathy, whatever. It’s sad.
Agreed.
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thank you Juesseppi
My pleasure Mr. Daniel.
Vicodin, percoset, that entire family of painkillers make me vomit, too. So I’ve learned just to put up with the pain when the situation arises, since the only alternative seems to be ibuprofen. Luckily my pain threshold is pretty high.
I have a relative with a fairly low pain threshold, and when he went for knee surgery, it was his wife I worried about, having to take care of him. He was a bad patient.
And my cousin the RN was just complaining about being put on a 12 hr shift on 4 hrs sleep (she’d come off another shift). They don’t have an easy job. That said, refusing to check on a patient who’s on the floor is inexcusable. Even if he was an addict.
My reaction to percoset seems to have changed over the last couple days; it no longer puts me right to sleep, but I am thankful that I have no problem with pain meds. Today, I am trying to go without them. so far so good.
A 12-hour shift on 4 hours of sleep? That’s terrible, all the more so given the possible consequences of error. If I am too tired maybe my students learn something wrong about the civil war. I would hate to have someone that tired making decisions about my health and well-being. To say nothing of that just being a piss poor way to treat an employee.
I guess one never really knows. I hope the nurse wasn’t really rude.
I know sometimes depending on the hospital & the patient load – some workers can get short. But – that’s unprofessional no matter how you look at it.
Get better soon.
Thanks RoSy,
Toward the end, yes, they were overtly rude. I could just about mark the change in tone each time they came in. Very sad.
I wonder if there were any injection-based alternatives rather than the pills that he kept vomiting up.
Precisely what I was thinking myself.
Hi there. Reading your post got my Italian up. I could feel the anger building up in me. My husband is on the heart transplant list and we have had some serious issues come up during this journey and bad care really does stand out. I’m so thankful that we have had wonderful nurses. I know their job isn’t easy but the uncaring ones should rethink their career choice.
I hope your husband comes through well, and I hope his nurses are always kind, …and have plenty of patience left in their tank, so to speak.
Modern life never fails to present tough situations. Hope he ends up all right.
I myself have had similar experiences when I’ve gone to hospitals. My most recent one was when my kidneys shut down for a few hours due to a nasty case of food poisoning. My neighbor, as far as I can remember, was an Alzheimer’s patient who had shattered her jaw when she wandered into the kitchen and started eating. This woman was in constant pain and didn’t know where she was. The first shift of nurses that I encountered seemed to be very overworked, and had a similar attitude to the ones your neighbor encountered. Although, I do remember that around midnight, there were new nurses making rounds. They were a lot more caring and patient, so at least the story has a happier ending.
I hope you’re feeling better, and can’t wait to read more from you.
I have been in the hospital many times with surgery I have to say, the nurse were great. I think sometimes it depends on the doctors..I found that when I had my tomor taken out of my spinal cord that…I heard the nurse say…no you do it this way..the doctor is very precise as what he wants done with his patients…so it could be a doctor that isn’t respected or the nurses where just not nice.
My brother recently had brain tumor and we had a problem with the nurses..if there is alot of pain as with me..they gave me a intervenous application. when my brother was hurting so bad with his restless legs I had to ask for the medication again AI have restless legs..its something that can drive you crazy and he could talk because he had a cancerous brain tumor and was dying…I said to them my brother has restless they said we…I said then why aren’t giving him something..they said we will. I asked I can’t tell you how many times..finally they gave it to him..
My daughter husband was in viet nam and we almost lost him..if it weren’t for my daughter staying there nite and day ..he would of been gone…so whol knows
Yours is such a sad story…
God Bless you
sherri